Tuesday, 9 July 2013

OF INEFFECTIVE REPRESENTATION, AND OLD CHESTNUTS TOO

Recently, a concerned bowhunter contacted his peak body expressing concern after the abolition of Game Council NSW, the suspension of hunting in 400+ NSW state forests and Crown lands, and bowhunting’s total exclusion from the proposed trial of hunting in 12 National Parks.

The response from his peak body – the Australian Bowhunters Association – serves to highlight growing concern about the state of all-pervading inertia and general apathy that threatens our culture and practices.

It also serves to demonstrate why so many people are discussing the pros & cons of launching of a new peak body that is not motivated by self-perpetuation and magazine sales, but rather the preservation of our rights and our way of life, through proactive lobbying, public education, activism and, above all, service and accountability to its stakeholders.

What are your thoughts...is this the response you would expect from the country’s largest peak/’representative’ body? Have you had a similar experience? Do we need an effective, proactive voice to represent our interests and is that voice anywhere to be found?

At this point I will share only one view of my own. When you sit at the centre of an organisation with millions of dollars in assets and resources; an organisation that is the largest of its type in Australia, and commands the greatest potential pool of member-resources just waiting to be tapped, it is gutless and disingenuous to deploy the old “remember none of us gets paid” chestnut!  Nowhere on the ABA's membership application form do the words, "we may not be able to represent your interests effectively because none of us gets paid" apear.

I have changed only the name of the member who made the original inquiry. The rest of the following exchange is as it transpired.

As always, your comments are welcome. You may also be interested in a related post on the Hunters Stand "As we look into the Abyss" here

Anyway, I'll get outaya way now.... 

Email from concerned bowhunter to Australian Bowhunters Association:

Subject: NSW Bowhunters left out in the cold

What do you plan to do to protect our rights now that they have been stripped away. If bowhunting is not allowed in National Forests then State Forests will be next. How did we go from a great prospering culture to being wiped off the map in one day. Time for you people at ABA to step up your game instead of sitting on your hands. Bows will be a licensed firearm within two years if you and the Shooters and Fishers party don't do something. You are our governing body! You represent US. It's time to prove that you are not just a figure head with no power as is bandied around all too often. Restore our culture and our faith.

'Michael'
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Australian Bowhunters Association's response:

Hello 'Michael',

Thanks for your concerned approach.

I can assure you the ABA exec do as much as they can but none of us get paid for what we do.
Believe it or not most of us have to make a living but we are happy to give up our time in persuit of what *we think is the benefit of archery/bowhunting.

In the case you are refering we haven’t had “anything wiped off the map in one day”. NSW has never had any hunting in National forests so anything that is allocated is a plus. Would I like to see bowhunting in these places? Absolutely. Is it likely? Probably not. The government want to eradicate feral animals and the bow is not the tool for that. *At this stage I am hoping the current hunting process will continue in State forests, but time will tell.

(I can assure you that we will do our best to be a part of that process but I doubt that we will see a conclusion prior to the National Election as I am pretty sure the whole thing is about votes.)

Believe it or not the Game Council was never about hunting, it was about feral and pest animal control, the government was using private hunters to help in this regard. Let’s face it, the bow is not going to cut it in a numbers game and numbers are what the GC are about. If the Game Council worked 100% efficiently and effectively it had a use by date anyway, as some time in the future there would not have been any pest animals left to hunt. In this regard the government has now decided there is a more efficient way of handling the current arrangement hopefully it will continue on with a similar process of the GC but it will be handled by an established department (DPI ?) and the GC will be no more.

This has no effect on private property hunting which historically has been the only way hunting could be conducted in NSW.

So what’s to be done? Numbers is the Game. Politicians and governments only care about numbers. So I’ll give you a challenge 'Michael'. Get everyone you know to join an archery/bowhunting association. The more numbers we can quote to these people the more chance we will have of them listening to us. But working against us will achieve nothing but division, and that will get us nowhere.

Mark Burrows,
VP Bowhunting Division.
ABA.

14 comments:

  1. Here it their response when they were asked a question about this subject on there forum (ABA)

    http://www.bowhunters.org.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=2713

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    1. I am utterly blown away by the sheer ignorance of the ABA that’s so evident in the discussion at this link. They should re-brand themselves “The Queensland Regional Bowhunters Association” and stop the pretence that they are a national body representing our interests. The responses from ABA graphically demonstrate that it has no idea of what’s going on in NSW, nor has it any interest in its members’ concerns about an earth-shattering development in a major precinct. A responsible peak body does not say it doesn’t really know what any of this means yet. It inquires, it researches, it lobbies, it plagues Minister and Parliamentarians with letters and emails until it knows what's going on. It fosters and coordinates a major campaign to reinstate lost rights....most of all it lets its head go and buys a national broadsheet every now and then, to keep itself in the loop about things everyone else is aware of but it, apparently, is not.

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  2. *we think is the benefit of archery/bowhunting............shouldn't it be what OUR members think????

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  3. What an arrogant email from Mark!

    I'd like to see the SSAA change their constitution to no longer be an apolitical organisation. It's time we tap some potential political muscle of 150,000+ members.

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  4. Wow, that is disappointing to say the least. What an attitude to have: "Well we're not the ideal solution, and historically we've only been allowed to hunt on private property so we'll just roll over and remember the good times".

    These guys deserve a right bollocking (and I'm not a bowhunter!

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  5. The ABA has such a defeatist attitude to bowhunting, unless on private property.
    I have to say that the ABAs lack of response has been echoed by other Firearm Organisations by their lack of action. I am not talking radical action just getting information out. However, I feel that more direct would be welcomed by a large amount of the hunting community.
    I would appreciate an organisation that would take up the gauntlet and lead for a change rather than sitting back and giving lame replies similar to the above example.

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  6. Wow, pathetic response really, we are helpless in the tide of public opinion!

    Maybe bump up the premiums and draw a wage to do some lobbying and make a difference!

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  7. This is typical of the ABA I was a member in the 80s and pulled out quickly because of this attitude, They won't change ...

    On another note, attending the NPA meeting last night (covertly) it seems as far as they are concerned with their meetings with OEH & DPI hunting with Bows and Blackpowder are gone ....... this was in question time and the questions related to hunting on public land in general. These people, rallied by justine mckee, are motivated and savy. His knowlege on using the media is pretty impressive they, the NPA & Co haave been in regular meetings with OEH for years now, they get information first hand and know it before we do. their goal is to get the legislation reverted back to the 2012 versions, and would be happy if State forest hunting stops too.

    Its time to get to know the enemy, Justine McKee he is one of the main driving forces behind this along with wires, he is crismatic and clever .....

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=398878556850770&set=pb.137594649645830.-2207520000.1373379680.&type=3&theater

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=474130489325576&set=pb.137594649645830.-2207520000.1373379673.&type=3&theater

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=365817773490182&set=pb.137594649645830.-2207520000.1373379575.&type=3&theater

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    1. Hunting in forests is effectively banned now. Bowhunting and blackpowder will not be permitted in the proposed 12 parks trial. It seems very unlikely that hunting in forests will be reinstated, unless Forestry staff and prepared to accompany all hunters as is proposed in the parks trials. The fact that bowhunting and blackpowder will not be included in the trial surely means that govt will not be able to assess their efficiency or safety and so it seems reasonable to suggest that they will remain banned. If the ABA cannot follow this simple line of reasoning sufficient to ask for clarification and assurances now, then what on earth are they good for? But the, what the hell would I know....I'm just a volunteer and I don't get paid.

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  8. I posted on the fb page of Shooters Union of Australia two days ago, where I politely suggested if they would organise a rally in Qld to demand the opening of state forests and national parks to hunting, as a coordinated mobilisation with the rallies being planned in NSW. Not only they did not have the decency and courtesy of replying to me, but they also removed my post. Now, they're supposed to represent and defend our rights... They're no better than ABA or SSAA, IMHO.

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  9. After dealing with ABA off and on for 30 years the response whilst disappointing did not surprise me at all. Sadly it is what we come to expect from ABA.

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  10. Yeah as a member who just renewed his membership before this went down I'm not at all happy with the ABA's response.
    The response from the ADA which I had just recently joined was much more appropriate.
    If the ABA are not willing to stand up for it's members interests I don't think I'll be renewing my membership when it expires.

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  11. after joining the sport two years ago in qld (aba) i was informed by ,magazine editors, aba officials etc that......." poaching is fine dont get caught.......yeah we shoot roo's just dont post pics of em...... instead of standing together its one big ego game who has more properties who shoots MATHEWS..... the whole system needs an overhaul and people that are really doing the wrong thing {....you know who you are and what you sell!} need their arses kicked not the poor buggers just starting out that are being told incorrect information!

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  12. You'd think bowhunting would be encouraged as it has less impact on wildlife in the immediate area ( since silencers are illegal on firearms ) and in the hands of an experienced hunter capable of harvesting similar numbers. Last of all why take the position to represent us if income was your primary motivator?

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